What you are describing isnt success nor does it addres my point so your hair splitting is moot anyway. Im willing to give Kiffin more time too and have stated that many times.

I thought they stopped rushing 5 with about 10 minutes left but I could be wrong.

Thats not the point.

Kiffin isnt our offensive coordinator.

He isnt our GM either.

He is our head coach and he has enough to look respectable and mediocre on BOTH sides of the ball.

The personnel isnt an excuse to look this bad.

This was about preparation, play design, scheming and execution.

The Donks approached us just like teams have the past few years and it worked to perfection.

That worries me.

But like I have said, Im not calling for either of their heads yet but at the same time, Kiffin isnt getting a free pass from me when hes the HC.

This stuff is what he was brought in to fix.

He wasnt brought aboard to be GM or OC so why are people upset that hes being held accountable for what he was brought in to do? That assignment is to fix the problems on the field. People get upset at Al for not letting him do his job and then use the Ryan firing as an example even though Kiffin wasnt hired to be GM. Then they give him a pass on the shortcomings in regards to his REAL mission as coach with the Raiders.

He has enough talent to look a heck of a lot better than we did.

I dont buy all the crap about us not drafting well. I do believe we are not getting anything out of that talent though.

Im tired of hearing how Kiffin doesnt have anything to work with.

He has enough to look better than Monoday night.