The 2 most successful expantion teams were the jags & the pampers, both built from nothing & were all but instant contenders. Who were their superstars? They started their build with lines jags with Oline & pampers with Dline/LBs. I dont think this team is as bad as convetion says, nor do I think its as good as our draft picks would indicate. I think we are roll players (3 or 4) away from the playoffs consistanly; a team that starts the season knowing its going to the playoffs & playing for divition title & a shot at a championship with commitment & execution. Thats not to say that I think DMac wont play a part in a winning season or getting us to the playoffs, hes not the one missing piece thats kept us from contention. Im sure Ill love watching the kid play & Im commited to him & willing to give him more than a fair chance to prove himself.

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We must have a personal vendetta against McFadden because we didn't buy into the hype and we just happen to administrate or moderate the forum... Whatever.... I know this the addition of 1 player isn't going to instantly make us a SB contender.... We might score quicker, but until our defenders learn how to tackle and dominate the other team will continue to score also!

Take a look at Minnesota... they added Peterson and they had a great defense but what happened... No QB play, No WR play... special teams break downs NO CHAMPIONSHIP! One player makes us a little better but we still needed help on the DLine we're short at DE!

So, in one breath, you're saying that not one player is going to get us anywhere. That we need to build. But then in the next breath, you're saying how McFadden is the next coming of Christ. Do you really think that somehow, just by merely having McFadden get the ball, we're going to the PLAYOFFS? PLAYOFFS? ..... PLAYOFFS? (Mora style ) Really man, do you even read what you type? You're contradicting yourself in one post...
And drafting for need doesn't work? Didn't we need a QB last season? Do you think that won't work out?
You have no idea how good McFadden will be. I don't hate him, I don't think that he's a Peterson though. I don't think he'll vault us into the playoffs either though. You were right about one thing. We are in a rebuilding phase. And you don't rebuild by swinging for the fences. Alot time, you just fly out.
And, just for the record, talking trash to the Mods and Admin isn't the best way to make friends around here...

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Not drafting for need means drafting the best player on the bord, in round 1 the best player on the bord is A QB, round 2 the best player on the bord is a QB, round 4 the best player on the boud is a QB, round 7 the best player on the bord is a QB. Now you have 4 QB to go with the QBs youve got on the roster & plenty of needs & an opertunity to explain how thats successful.

Am I being a d!ck here or is there some thing Im missing?

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I'm not trash talking individuals, I'm trashing talking the smack you guys run up on Dmac and it's getting flat out ridiculous, and to say it wasn't out of hate, you should check re edit the words you and other mods choose. Mcfadden is the best player in the draft, and to draft Dorsey who is a good player, but not a world beater and injury prone. Mcfadden is the best pick for this team right now, because most likely Fargas would get hurt, Rhodes would average 3 to 4 yards a game and LJ is LJ, poses no threat to a defense. Our offense is non explosive until now. We are not 1 player away, the sooner you realize it the better.

Nobody here hates McFadden, it's just most of us here don't agree on him being our first pick. Most of us here wanted to address need instead of McFadden. More importantly, now that he is a Raider all of us here will have his back and support & root for the kid.

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To all my RAIDER haters: You have one advantage over me.....You can kiss my ass and I can't!!

I don't think anyone here hates McFadden; it's just that your team had other needs that some thought perhaps should take priority. It's like... I wasn't terribly enthused about Denver's second pick; not because I dislike Eddie Royal, but because I wanted them to take a lineman instead. Because I view "the trenches" as the place where the Broncos needed help. It's my perception that the same principle works here with some of the Raider fans... they thought your team would benefit more from help in the trenches than from a speedster when you already have viable RBs.

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Nope... your just being logical and rational. The New England Patsies don't draft the best player available. Baltimore doesn't draft the best player available. Baltimore rebuilt a franchise by taking positions of need. The fuggin patsies take draft football players... regardless of their combine numbers. All they want is football players!

We used to take football players that had great speed now we draft speed and have to teach football.

Look out now... you might be considered a Moderator

I wonder how people will react when we do our normal dissection of Raider games... I remember hammering Jordan about going in the wrong direction and missing blocks... which caused Andrew Walter to get killed. I remember Jordan missing chip blocks on Gallery's side making Gallery look bad because he was defending the inside knowing that someone was supposed to chip his man! Zach Crockett missing blocking assignments.

I guess I'm supposed to give McFadden a pass just because he was picked 4th and he's supposed to be a superstar.... Right... That will be the day! commitment to excellence is the name of the game here. If he doesn't learn to use his blockers, run with patience & from his base... I'm gonna dog his ass out! If he fumbles because he carries the ball in the wrong hand... I'm gonna have something to say about it. If he gets caught in the open field because he can't make a cut... or if he gets stoned in the backfield too many times because he doesn't stick his foot and go.... More commentary from me and others who don't like his performance.

This isn't some ****ing homer site where we just suck each others ass to get along... We get along because we recognize and appreciate peoples opinion even our rivals! If people want that homer shit this is the wrong part of town. This isnt a Al Davis bashing forum either... If you don't understand where I'm coming from... your probably new to this site... Bottom line is McFadden is a Raider we all back him and we reserve the right to rip into his ass if he's not up to par!

Rant over!

Your perception would be absolutely correct Blue!

Lol, I'd be honered

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This site is gonna take off... I'll remember you said that!

This right there is why i joined this site. That is the kinda of conversations i have been looking for and you are the people i enjoy talking to. Sure i got my friend to talk to but i like multiple views and opinions on the subject.

I am so glad i found this site. As for Mcfadden, i have said from the beginning that he may be good but is he what we really needed. Sure the extra TD or two could help but not if we are getting run all to town over and his play time is limited due to the defense being on the field unable to stop LT or LJ.

JamarcusRaider our opinions may differ but know that your opinion is still valuable and will always be welcome in my books.

Because he was picked so high, expectations may very well be extremely high for McFadden. Me, I fully expect to see lots of criticism of him in his first season as a pro. Why? Because he's young and young players make mistakes... some make more than others, but he is not going to play perfectly right out of the gate and to expect that is unrealistic.

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I dont hate McFadden, I like the kid, but not at #4 over all. It would have been hard to trade down out of that spot, noone wants to write that kinda pay check, but "if" we could have gotten a 1 & a 2 out of it there were other (more conventional) RBs, with good speed, left in the draft we could have picked up & made the team better else were as well. "If" we couldnt have gotten out of it Dorsey would have made more 'in the long run' sence. Now that the 08 draft is a matter of history, the "ifs" dont matter.
"IF" my grandmother had wheels, shed be a wagon.

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