You keep saying this... When are you going to listen to yourself? McFadden won't change the team by himself either man! I don't know what you are basing all of this McLove on, but things in college are WAY different than things in the NFL. I shouldn't have to say that, but it's starting to seem so. (Cue the RB bust list Max... )

And, just so you know, you refer to the Mods hating on McFadden; We all have our own opinions. I can love or hate a player however I please. I am not told to like or dislike a player by anyone. It doesn't operate that way here. It's just that the majority of the board didn't like the McFadden pick. Not just the Mods. The admins here run a good, clean, fun place. There's no dictatorship here. Did you ever think that all the Mods and Admin here didn't like the McFadden pick because we all think it wasn't a good pick?

With the new cut blocking sceme Cable has in place, like the Mules, we can plug just about any RB in there. In my opinion, we didn't need McFadden. Do I hope he does well? YES! I hope he does so well, that Fargas quits. Will it happen? No. They're opinions man, we're entitled to them.

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If we're not 1 player away then why send the money on 1 first round pick when you dont have a 2nd or 3rd. why not make as many picks out of that first round pick into as many picks as you can get out of it insted of taking ONE kid who could be boom or bust, but will get the money eather way & STILL not be 1 player away. A couple of Dlinemen & an Olineman 'might be able to get us 1 player away, but adding a speed back doesnt. DMac is the player you draft when you are 1 flashy, expolsive back away.

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Amen!

and here it is:

Lawrence Phillips, Tatum Bell, Archie Griffin, George Rogers, Anthony Davis, Gaston Green, Rashan Salaam, Curtis Enis, Marcus Dupree, Ki Jana Carter, Blair Thomas, Tim Worley, Tim Biakabituka, Sammie Smith, Rickey Bell, D.J. Dozier, Chris Perry, Butch Woolfolk, Tyrone Wheatley, Cedrick Benson, Reggie Bush, Harvey Williams, John Cappelletti, J.J. Arrington, Vaughn Dunbar, Ron Dayne, Charles White, Mike Rozier & Rickey Williams.

Players in red = Heisman trophy winners!!!

Lighten up Francis,McFadden will help our offense,and I'm not with the majority,in fact I may be leading the mutiny,and lighten up on the bust stuff,as I said in another thread McFadden was the first of only 5 players drafted in the 1st round that got the highest rating for a projected NFL player coming out of HIGH SCHOOL!,the only bad thing about that is Dorsey was too.

And we didn't have a Rb,last year Fargas was the 3rd stringer behind Jordan & Rhodes,Jordan went suck on us before he went limp,and Rhodes was never in shape,to many hot dogs or something,so this is what we had (for all you people that can add) coming into this year..are you ready..

1.Fargas
2.Bush (Unknown factor,but I'm hopeful)
3.Whoever didn't die in pre-season not Rhodes or Jordan


NOT ONLY DID WE NEED A RB,WE GOT THE BEST GUY ON THE BOARD! I keep hearing we have all these rb's thats an outright fraud,even the Red Headed Nymph keeps repeating that sh't,we were at the mercy of Fargas lasting the season and Bush being ready to go.

This years about Jamarcus taking over for a long fuggen time(Cross your fingers) it's about making sure he's got what he needs,yep we probably wont be able to stop Clarrett from having a good day,but we will score some points!

Yeah they all suck all ecept for maybe Tyrone who went somewhere else and became decent,but McFadden aint on that list yet..Thats just where I'm coming from,thats all.

Nobody is saying Mcfadden will be a bust... we're just pointing out the fact that the hype machine has been proven wrong numerous times where RB's are concerned. When you look at the ratio of Heisman RB busts versus Heisman winners who panned out... its not very good... then if you look at 1st round RB's who panned out versus busted it remains the same. I think people need to curb their enthusiasm of how great this kid is gonna be etc. We have to allow him to learn how to play like a professional RB before we bestow the title of him being our best RB... Why is everyone disrespecting Justin Fargas should be the question.

Now as far as is concerned... she really doesn't have a leg to stand on until that Sean Penn wannabe gets his mechanics together... He's got the worst QB mechanics I have ever seen for a QB that gets all that hype!

Well, yeah, I did diss Rhodes and Jordan. But I've also said RB wasn't your team's biggest area of need... and that none of us knows yet what Michael Bush does or does not bring to the table. Also, I don't think I've ever dissed Fargas.... to my knowledge the only question re: him is whether or not he's durable enough to last an entire season as an every-down back.

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Deadmans stock went up in my book for the STRIPES reference, but I dont want him to be our Big Toe. Its the hype that we all hate (if I may speak for the masses) not the kid himself. I like the idea of having him in the backfeild, albeit not as much as I would have liked other RBs we could have gotten later on, for less money, if we would have traded down. I dont really like flashy backs, it seems they have two types of runs when they get to the NFL, 10+ yard gains or 3+ yard losses. If you look at it like QBs: out of 10 passes you get 6 completions & 4 sacks your not moving the chains. Rbs if your 4 yard average comes from one 25 yard gain two 2 yard losses & two stops at the line, your not moving the chains. I think thats what we all fear from DMac. You never know when the big one is coming, but untill it gets here you get 2 & 3 yard gain, hammered in the backfield, getting as much as the line gives him & stoped on contact. I cant wait to see the kid pop off a big one, but I hope he can grind out the 4 to 6 yarders to he gets the one for 63.

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Yeah, You gotta love deadman he comes up with some good shit. I think you have a pretty good feel for the pulse of the people who are expressing a bit of reserve about McFadden. I don't have high expectations for him but at the same time I want him to exceed all of my expectations in a decent way. I would love to see him average close to 5 yards per carry without the Barry Sanders syndrome. I don't want him getting hit in the backfield like Lamont "you big dummy" Jordan. I would rather see him make positive gains on every play... the occasional home run will be nice.

Does anyone have a stat on how many runs from the LOS go more than 15 yards etc?

So we'll soften them up with Fargas & Bush and then knock em' out with Run DMC,I want to be logical here,our backfield just got upgraded,ANYBODY HERE WORRIED ABOUT OUR RUNNING GAME THIS YEAR?.....I DIDN'T THINK SO!

And most of the backs on Max's list are small,McFadden is a big back,he's a Kaufman type speedster who doesn't get blown down by the wind,and Kiffins no idiot(I Hope Not) when we fake it to him we will draw LB's & Safeties and we will have one on one down field with Miller wide the f'k open..Again,for me it's the year of Jamarcus,we have to make last years "Big Pick" pan out,we needed to get him help,I totally agree with the pick,and I will not second guess myself until he actually does suck.

This is good for Bush to because he doesn't have to be ready yet, we can work him in slowly,but the way it was looking before the draft he was a Fargas knee-cap away from being all we had,but who knows? for all I know he could be ready now.